Tearstone Performance - New Featured Ride Dannys 2000 Eclipse GS Turbo

Oct 25 2007

New Featured Ride Dannys 2000 Eclipse GS Turbo

Written by Russ Sanderlin

Thursday, 25 October 2007

Now listed in our featured rides section is Danny's badass Turbo GS pushing 300 WHP at 310 Thq at 15 psi with a big 16G turbo!

Danny's 2000 Eclipse GS, was built using a 2nd generation DSM manifold at a big Mitsubishi 16G turbo. As expected, the proper power output for a stock 4G64 is given at 15psi with this particular sized turbo.

To check out his ride featured on Tearstone Performance click this link: http://tearstone.com/shop/Danny-s-2000-Eclipse-GS.html

If you would like to have your ride featured for some outstanding exposure on Tearstone Performance, please email Russ at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it complete with details about your car, mod list and at least 4 pictures to post up.

Comments (38)

1 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 28-10-2007 05:26
Just wondering, are you running completely stock internals on your 4g64 at 15psi?

2 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 29-10-2007 14:43
From what I can tell he is. The 4G64 stock internals are fine for 17psi as that is the point the heads stop flowing any more horsepower. The 4G64 was built like a turbo engine without the turbo.

3 Written by Danny, on 30-10-2007 15:02
Well right now its complete stock and the reason behind is I want to see ht how much HP can this SOHC motor can produce before melting on me once its done I will be doing a EVO head swap with a complete build motor

4 Written by Steven Urena, on 02-11-2007 13:39
So how long can you run the 4G64 with 17psi before you blow your engine?

5 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 03-11-2007 15:35
Assuming the 4G64 turbo setup is properly tuned, you should never run into an issue where you blow the engine. The very few that have blown their engine didn't tune or pushed their engine to futile limits like 25psi and a lot of hard driving... untuned.

6 Written by Danny Khan, on 05-11-2007 08:02
Well Steven Urena just like Russ Sanderlin said its not how long will it take to blow my einge cos engine blowen as far as I understand is not porpotional to the increase in PSI u can have 8 PSI Turbo setup and still blow up ur engine or u can have 19 PSI system and still it works like the day u put it in ... Its all about harmony in ur engine the proper tuning and a good eye on ur engine with sensors like Wide band,Knock,Oil pressure, and a good computer to run tht all well in my case I went with the best one I could find for ppl like me an AEM EMS .I check my car every 3 to 4000 km u know compression test ,leak test stuff like tht to make sure every thing is running smooth

7 Written by Steven Urena, on 08-11-2007 01:33
Danny and Russ, Thanks for the information. I have a turbo kit that i will be having installed in my 4G64. I was just curious as to how much psi i could use with out hurting my engine. Well i will make sure that after everything is installed that its tuned in perfect harmony. i think i will stick with 8 psi just to keep it safe. Again, Thanks.

8 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 26-11-2007 16:23
Danny, great build man! im in the process of gathering parts to boost my RS...90% so far, cant wait. Im looking to do the same and get the best EMS possible, how do you liek the AEM? Ive been going back and forth on a Haltech or AEM. Can you send post the exact EMS you used, PLEASE. I would rather buy something that i know someone has used successfully instead of going through uncharted waters. Againg great build and good luck selling it.

9 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 26-11-2007 16:51
Hey Dan, scratch the posting of the EMS you used. I wrote that before looking at list of mods. Is there any extra sensors I will need to use this EMS? and i have a question that may seem really dumb but here it goes... With the EMS being for a DOHC how can/does it work with a SOHC. does the 2nd reading for the other cam shaft get eliminated in the tune? sry for the retarted question.

10 Written by Danny, on 27-11-2007 07:59
Hey Dave ..THanks for ur compliments bro ...really appreciate them.... Well I used to have a Blue Emanage and I dont know if the tuning wasnt done rite or something but thth thing has alot of limitation i mean I couldnt able to get my 560 CC injector going with Emanage and SAFC II is one step lower .... so u can imagine .. man getting a EMS is the best investment I did in my car ... u can practically play around with every thing in ur car ur timing ... Duty Cycle of ur injectors .... Rough Estimate of ur car HP ur adjusting ur rev meter I mean every thing ...
Well ur question is really intelligent and for a long time me and my buddy had a discussion on tht but the only way to settled it was to buy it and see tht it works .... Well i think it readjust it self depending on what kind of car its being putting in ... i.e a SOHC like 4g64 or DOHC 4g63T either way it worked for my man the part number i think I already mention is 30-1313 beside AEM stopped making 30-1312 which use to be for our car and now they r selling this for both our and evo 8 models... Oh yeah u will going to need a IAT sensor with tht .

11 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 27-11-2007 16:48
hey thx for the comment back Danny. ive done a lot of research on the emanage and guys that reflash the stock ecu n im just looking to play it safe and like you said, have a lot more control of everything. doin so much research is why thatll be one of the last things i buy. i know AEM made one specifically for our car, then came out with the 30-1313 but again wasnt sure what the deal was with the cam sensors. but its good to know your got it n it worked great. thatll be the rout ill go in the spring. im hopin to have a good number of whp to represent for 3geclipse'. i recently put in wiseco 8.5 comp fored pistons, new tranny with preformance bearings n stg 2 clutch. had a custom 57trim turbo flowin 1200cfms' built from local guy here in michigan, 700cc injectors n custom bov. hopefully be puttin down 310-330whp with her safey. its a daily driver so nottin to extreme. but thx again for the comment back n i appreciate the answeres. check her out at http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2419652 n let me know what you think. if you have an email address or aim let me know what it is cuz im sure ill have future questions for ya. thx dan

12 Written by Danny, on 28-11-2007 08:40
Dave bro the way u r going all u need is 3" exsaust system and I can bet on it u will be pushing more then 350WHP I kid u not ... if u heard about XulluX thas the guy who taught me most of this stuff and very good friend he pushed 328WHP out of his stock I4 ..since you got a build engine and I dont plus bigger injectors I will strongly recommend you go with EMS ... Also wht line of tubro are u going with Mitsubishi's or Garret's ??

13 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 28-11-2007 14:45
ya we'll see what numbers i get out of her, 350whp was the original goal but wanted to play it on the safe side cuz she is the daily driver n all. but EMS will allow me to run her safely. i was thinkin bout switchin out my 2.5in w/ 3.5in Magnaflow cat back out with Greddy 3in n 4in out, but im worried bout back pressure. my buddy has a gst with stock turbo n custom 3in exaust n has little backpressure for turbo. but im ganna drop the parts in and see what happens w/ my exhaust n what its limiting me to. my turbo is again custom built, has a 2nd gen eclipse flange on it so itll bolt to the stock mani. i guess you could call it a Mitsu turbo. has stronger internals and the wastegate is set to 12lbs. heres a link to the turbo on club3g, i was tryin to sell it n my intercooler so i could get a clean gsx here in town but changed my mind.
http://www.club3g.com/forum/automotive-sale-wanted/99803-big-custom-turbo-intercooler.html I got a hell of a deal on the turbo n most of my parts. shop owner gave me most of my order's at cost. if you know anyone that needs some parts let me know, he deals with a guy in On, Canada who custom makes intercoolers, hes willing to ship outa country. Any big events this commin summer in Toronto? we should oganize a meet with 3g's somewhere up there. never been to toronto n im only bout 3 hrs from there. id make the trip up if you wanna get some guys to go to the track. might be able to get 2 built 3000gt vr4's n some other guys. let me know

14 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 18-12-2007 20:32
Danny, can you pm pics for your downpipe setup. im lookin to use a 2nd gen Dp and i know theres clearance issues but trying to figure out the best/easiest way to go. also, you go with high flow cat or test pipe?

15 Written by Danny, on 21-12-2007 15:55
Hey Wilson
I am using Magna flow 3"in 3" out cat converter and the whole setup is 3" I just recently upgraded my exsaust to Y pipe so now its like 2 pipes of 2.5 " goes into 2 seprate twin tip Magna Flow mufflers.
The downpipe is custom made and I wish I could send u pics but the car in parked inside my garage burried under alot of stuff so it will be hard for me but I will try ... One thing more 2G downpipe wont work I have one sitting in my basement didnt work for me at all the angles are all different

16 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 23-12-2007 18:15
alright thx. the angles of the actual pipe or the flanges? i know the flanges wont bolt up but i was just planning on cut n welding them so they do. how much was the custom DP? and hows the back pressure with 3in? im tryin to go 2.5in with test pipe for now.

thx man

17 Written by Danny, on 24-12-2007 11:32
Well buddy if u gonna make it a project car I would say go with 3 " setup cos later on whn u will be marking 300 + tht will really play imp role ... I didnt got chance to do the dyno after Y-PIPE conversion but the spooling is i would say atleast 100% better now ..i believe with new turbo i m just running 8 psi and it climbs quick very quick ... angles i m talking about pipe it self i think its totally the other way its not tht u cant make it work it will work but since u wanna use stock why dont go with EVO 8 conversion .... evo 8 mani , tubo and downpipe are all bolt on to our cars all u need ia a spacer for ur mani and ur all set and its much better then 2g eclipse ...

18 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 26-12-2007 17:51
I went with 2nd gen parts because of the turbo ihad made n i had the parts readily available. i can see what you sayin as far as 3in exhaust n i agree. i guess with the numbers im lookin for and the size turbo, back pressure shouldnt be a issue. how much am i lookin at for a 3in turbo back system? without/ Y pipe. i know it depends on muffelr selection n all but basicallty whatd u spend for your setup? and with the y pipe coversipon. thx man

happy holidays

19 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 28-12-2007 21:30
hey maybe someone can help me out i just got my car running @ 8lbs on the 4g64 block with the t3 t4 tubo. its running alright with a quick street tune. but i want to put it @ 15 lbs with a good tune. right now its all stock but the turbo. but heres my question.. will my block survive the 15 lbs with some nitrous...?? and is thier any bolt ons to gain some quick horse power...??

20 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 29-12-2007 22:51
hey mike, congrats on the build. how long have you been running it with FI? If it hasnt been long i would wait a little while to turn up the boost. let the motor get used to the extra power if its fairly new. 15psi shouldnt be a problem with a GOOD tune. what are you tuning with? take into consideration that Danny here is running a AEM standalone EMS and is only using 10psi with a smaller turbo. The block is strong and good for a lot more but with a really good tune. theres guys on club3g running at 15lbs with a evo reflash and SAFC2 with no problems. as far as throwin nitrous into the mix, it again depends on the tune and how big of a shot your looking to use. my opinion, i could see it goin caboom. but if you go ahead n do it, let me know!

21 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 31-12-2007 13:50
Hey danny, how was ur christmas? just wonderin where you found the IAT Sensor for the 30-1313? i just ordered the AEM 3.5 Bar Map sensor for it and wanted to get the IAT but havin trouble finding it. i ordered 3in 2nd gen DP, im going 3in exhaust like you and others have mentioned. im just ganna use the Dp to moch it up and customize/weld it as necessary. only a few more pieces to buy and itll all be thrown together in May. also, the Fuel Pressure Regulator and Gauge, is that necessary to get her rolling or somthin i can buy later on? for the EMS was there a base setting that came with it to get it atleaste started/ drivable? if not can you possibly send a Pm to my facebook with your low boost settings. I just need somethin to get it drivable and im taking it to IPS Motorsports to have them tune it after its thrown together. thx n happy new yr

22 Written by Danny, on 31-12-2007 15:23
Hey Dave sorry for late reply I m on holidays so not around my computer alot ... my christmas was good even though I am muslim but I love celebrating the birth of our prophet Jesus as well : ) ..... now to ur question well the IAT sensor I believe u can get tht from the GM too but let me double check on it the best place I would say to get tht will be EBAY i got my EMS second hand off from a EVO 8 so guy send me the sensor and every thing tht bolt right up... 3 inch will be gold if u planning to go more in future which trust me you will : ) .... u will going to need Fuel pressure regulator (FPR) cause its function is to spray the gas in to the mix without it ur will be just dumping it which will result in stall on red lights and Rev problems.... well I can send u my setting but I m running 560CC injectors and 255 LPH FP... my turbo is bigger and being hacked inside out (clipped etc..) ... even though it will help u a bit but still u cant use it as a base line tune ...

23 Written by danny, on 31-12-2007 15:29
Hey Mike .... Good to hear abt ur F/I project I think Dave here pretty much covered wht I would have said ... with a new turbo and Stock motor ... I would say break it in buddy the longer the better .. give it two three tanks .. and once its done then go for big one but man u gotta have good knowledge and good stuff to go big ... I will always encourage to go with EMS I tired all of them SAFC,Emanage and AVCR ...I still stick with my EMS ....I was running 15 PSI last year but rite now I am just like u trying to break my turbo in once done tht I will push it to 15 may be more ...NOS bro I really cant say cos I never being a fan of that stuff ..but good luck

24 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 01-01-2008 18:12
hey danny, np on the reply. i was reading bout the 30-1313 and the 3.5 bar map sensor n it said i could get the IAT sensor from a local car store. so i took a ride n picked up the sensor and pigtail fiting for $40. so thats a done deal n again just waiting to get the acutal ems. as far as the tune i didnt even think twice bout injector size n all that good stuff. thx but like you said its pretty much useless. i have a local turbo shop that can give me a base tune but they dont a have dyno n ill still be goin to IPS Motorsprots. the FPR deal makes sense. any perticular brand/kit you recommend?

25 Written by Danny, on 02-01-2008 08:13
Hey Dave... well good to know man u got every thing now just put this Piggy in and see how many hamsters u can pull out of ur car : )..... Usually its better to do base tune on street and trust me the better the Base tune is the lesser time it will take u on the dyno which is directly porpotional to ur pocket cha ching

....with this bro I would suggest u go with slightly larger injector like 560CC or even 760 cos u can always limit them in ur EMS if ur car cant handle it .... about the FPR I got mine from Tearstone.com the Aeromotive one its very nice make sure u get the gauge for it too cos they dont come with the FPR.and oh yeah make sure u keep some money for a nice clutch aswell u will be going through ur stock one soon .... it can only handle 215HP ...

26 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 02-01-2008 11:35
happy New Year! yea ive been breaking it in pretty good these past couple of weeks. see i got it street tuned on the EVO Flash but i was told that the AFC NEO 2 could work as well. i already have the NEO but, i just found out my turbo is leaking oil. i had a really small T3 T4 but now my plans are to get a slightly smaller turbo and a good tune at 15 lbs. is any one running with a stock cam...? o and i dont really got on that often considering i dont own a computer... but i try...

27 Written by Danny, on 02-01-2008 15:01
Hey Mike
I m really sorry to hear tht ...tht turbo is gone happened to my Charger last year ... why r u planning to go with a smaller turbo ... The old one was tht from ebay ?? i would go bigger but its up to u

28 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 02-01-2008 21:46
haha Piggy n hamsters? never heard it put that way but i like it lol n ya im planning on the tune being atleaste $600+ at IPS, but def be worth it. my 2 buddies with built VR4's n myself are takina trip down to get them tuned, fig itll be a 2-3 day odeal since we're all pretty much startin from scratch, grabbina hotel n partyin it up haha. ill be running 700cc injectors so im good there, went bigger cause like u said can tone them down and save the life on them a lil longer. When i did my engine build i dropped in a stg 2 Zoom clutch good for the numbers im looking for, so good there too. ive heard good things bout the Aeromotive FPR n will prob go that rout.

29 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 02-01-2008 21:57
Mike- i have the same question? why smaller? how small are you thinking? any idea what cfm's your t3-t4 was? ill be running on stock cam and as far as i know most guys are unless they do a evo head swap. if your thinkin bout goin with a cam, i say save your money and put it towards the evo or kia head swap. guys are gettin it done for 1500-2k, real good posts on club3g. just more efficient then puttin $400+ towards a cam that wont help out as much as youd like it to. but u gatta also think, two cams VS one means more shit to go wrong. and if you dont have the best timing in your tune, it could really do some damage.

30 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 02-01-2008 23:37
yea it was the ebay turbo kit.. i had the turbo set up off the 4g63 eclipses but again my turbo started leaking oil. so i just bought the ebay kit insead of puttling the other one back on... but yea i was thinking about getting the gerret t25t28disco potato.. just cuz i wanted it to spool up faster and boost higher, not for sure yet, it was either that or the 16 g. i found one for 200. but yea i heard that u can do a head swap but from the gst eclipse.. but now im really thinking about the evo head swap.. thats not bad for 2 g's... but are u talking about the mivec heads??? i also found a stroker kit for a little over 3 grand. yea and im not to good with computers so if any of yall wanna help me out and put some links up... that would be bad ass... ohh and somemore info on that evo head swap... i think that would be a good nest step...

31 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 03-01-2008 16:43
id say go with the 16g turbo, but if you goin to get one make sure its a Mitsubishi turbo n not a cheap chinese knock-off. as far as the head swap... the 2nd gen wont work (from the eclipse or talon) because the intake mani is facing the wrong side and the whole head is swapped backwards.

http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclipse-rs-gs-specific/102450-dohc-head-swap-information-finally.html

http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclipse-rs-gs-specific/97550-i-went-junkyard-yesterday.html

theres 2 descent threads to start with. its not hard to find info....go to club3g.com n type in head swap under search, pick a thread and read. thats the best way to learn anything man. ive been readin on that sight n others for well over a yr n i still have questions. its a good site, just take the time to use it. theres also a .org site that i know danny here talks on....no sure what the exact web adress is.....?? if you search for post bu Flashbluers at cub3g...he's VERY knowledgable bout our entire motor in and out, swaps and the best ways to go bout things. try lookin for his info.

32 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 03-01-2008 19:05
alright thanks for the help... ill try to keep posted up on when i get it back on the road... and if i can figure out how to put some pics up or something... ohh and on the 16g turbo.. what kind of manifold does it need...?? and is it water cooled..?

33 Written by danny, on 05-01-2008 19:48
well man honestly a turbo with tht size i would say u will be spooling while ideling .....with 16G turbo u can use either 2G eclipse manifold or EVO8 with 16 G u will going to loose ur AC and with EVO 8 u will be needing a spacer between ur head and manifold ....16G are both water and oil cooled

34 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 07-01-2008 15:12
ya i agree with Danny n the idle spool. being our cars are front wheel drive n pushin enough whp its ganna be tough enough to get it to hook to the road, so having a little turbo lag or spool up response from a larger isnt all that bad. itll give you time to the car rolling. just my theory. hey danny, have you heard anything bout us being able to use a 2g cat back system?

35 Written by Danny, on 08-01-2008 13:17
Hey Dave
About 2g Catback system fitting ours ... hmm honestly bro I have no clue but if u think about it even the front required alot of modifying before we can put it in our cars so i am assuming same case for the rear one .... I know its frustrating and it was even more 2 years back whn I was getting my turbo in but I think the only way to get ur exsaust system upgraded is to fabricate one. small turbo size my adivce dont do it stick to atleast 16G it has a quicker spool time then T3/T4

36 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 09-01-2008 11:21
ya i did some research on 2g cat back n it will fit. guys are running a gst exhasut, so ill go with that. prob greddy evo 2. how much of a pain in the ass was it to drop in your fuel pump? i tried to get it done in a couple hrs yesturday n was havin some issues. i go the white drop in housing out but couldnt open it to get to the pump. didnt wanna mess anythin up so i fig i forget it n some back when some is there who knows what there doin. but ya seems like a real pain in the ass!

37 Written by DANNY, on 14-01-2008 11:40
Which one are u using an inline or intank cos intank will give u alot of head ache lot of modification require where's the inline works best and its very easy too ...I think the part number for our cars are GSL-392 or somehting u might wanna double check that one but get the inline and every thing will be fine ... sorry for late reply as I am stuck in FTA reciever nowadays ... : ) I just got intrested in the way they work

38 Written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , on 14-01-2008 12:07
i got the walbro 255lph pt # GSS-317. its the same exact housing n everything as the GSS-342HP one but its not a high pressure. i tried fitting my manifold, turo, o2 housing n downpipe yesturday and ya def see the clearance issues. looks like ill be takin out my AC

kinda sux but w/e.

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